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at congressional relations. he never has been. according to mark-- cbs news, the keeper of the flame, he has played golf 104 time, three time its he has played with a member of congress, once with john bairn, es sea not -- >> that's a way of keeping skoferment he's not somebody who schmoozes. he is not somebody who is good that way. but what we judge is not the process. we judge the product. it is a product he comes out with is good, if it is fair and just, and moves the countries economy, and starts declining the deficit then it's good. and the process will have worked. if it isn't, then we can revisit the process and say the process was flawed. >> the process getting there is the hard part. we could all in our heads draw up a deal but he has had people over the last couple of weeks, republicans taking risk. boehner took a risk, tom cole took a risk and he undercut them. he made them look stupid with what he did yesterday. they feel furious, they feel burned so you have to help your people along. you have to make it more possible. and so that's why i think you just got to what he offered was not o
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